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Subject: john 10:30
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unquiet1 1.06.10 - 11:35am
regarding john 10:30... John Calvin(who was a Trinitarian) said in the book COMMENTARY ON THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JOHN:

''the ancients made a wrong use of this passage to prove that Christ is ... of the same essence with the Father. For Christ does not argue about the unity of substance, but about the agreement which he has with the the Father.'' *

unquiet1 1.06.10 - 11:42am
right in the context of the scriptures after john 10:30, Jesus forcefully argued that his words were not a claim to be God. he asked the Jews who wrongly drew that conclusion and wanted to stone him: ''why do you charge me with blasphemy because i, consecrated and sent into the world by the Father, said, 'i am God's son....'?'' (john 10:31-36, New English bible)

Jesus claimed that he was the son of God. not God the Son! *

unquiet1 1.06.10 - 11:45am
interestingly the context of both john 10:30 and john 5:18 show that Jesus defended himself against false charges from the jews who, like trinitarians, were drawing the wrong conclusions! *

unquiet1 1.06.10 - 11:05pm
the oneness Jesus is talking about is unity of purpose. *

bambaata 1.07.11 - 06:03pm
It's also my point of view *


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